tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3150901600152577599.post5832911100109231192..comments2022-08-09T09:59:56.726+10:00Comments on Do The Right Things: Caveat is using NTBackup in Windows 7L. Marhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12467212807268032119noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3150901600152577599.post-14301175554029497722010-12-01T22:25:53.451+10:002010-12-01T22:25:53.451+10:00What you said is true. But does that automatically...What you said is true. But does that <b>automatically</b> making it "pretty useless"?<br /><br />I hate to differ. As a start, even with PST, you are assuming one is backing up while still using Outlook? All you need is to make sure you are not running Outlook.<br /><br />All my machines runs in <a href="http://do-the-right-things.blogspot.com/2010/04/instructions-to-set-up-limited-user.html" rel="nofollow">LUA</a> and when I do backup, I simply log off and do my backup runs in a different account. PST is not opened in the Administrator's account even if I am an Outlook user, which I am not.<br /><br />As for Sql Server, I backup the back up files generated by Sql Server's backup task. They are not in used.<br /><br />Most of my vital systems run on Virtual Machine (not XP Mode and not MS Virtual PC as VMPlayer rocks even in Windows 7 Home), I simply back them up when they are powered down.<br /><br />Everything is relative - including "useless". As for Windows 7's Backup and Restore center, that is really damn useless. Here are some of the standard features of a back up tool that Windows 7 does not support:<br />1) Creating backup jobs for different stuff that you can run at different schedule. If you want to see a one-size fit all, try this 'free' Windows 7 Backup and Restore center generously donated by Microsoft. You have choice - one backup list!<br /><br />2) Try to backup a folder which is a mount point? No where to be seen.<br /><br />3) I can't seem to find how to invoke 'Backup and Restore' in Windows 7 from command-line. Is it possible?<br /><br />You also assume that I have to visual see the log file to find those files in use and not being able to back up. All you need is a script and NTBackup is <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/814583" rel="nofollow">fully invokable from a script</a> including turning off volume shadow backup. <br /><br />I don't think not having shadow volume copy is such a big deal. Definitely not worth paying Microsoft extra money as that is against my "paying Microsoft absolutely minimum amount" principle.L. Marhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12467212807268032119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3150901600152577599.post-77969554241373688432010-12-01T05:28:03.505+10:002010-12-01T05:28:03.505+10:00What you don't seem to address is that ntbacku...What you don't seem to address is that ntbackup without VSS is a pretty useless utility. It won't backup up files in use, like Outlook .pst (if outlook is running), and you probably won't know it didn't unless you look closely at the log file.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3150901600152577599.post-82852134300306094092010-09-22T14:38:15.899+10:002010-09-22T14:38:15.899+10:00Is there anyway to save the tick in the disable sh...Is there anyway to save the tick in the disable shadow copy box?<br />Currently everytime I start a job I have to go back into advanced and tick the box :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com